Anchoring

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Anchoring

Postby Dan » Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:30 pm

I am reposting this in a more relevant place.

When at anchor and the wind picks up you will have all noticed that the HR29 has a tendency to yaw. (Moving intermittently between starboard to port and yanking the anchor rode). This is very disconcerting in particular when weathering a gale and you worry about the anchor hold. When this occurs we fold and lash the spray-hood and then work the boat around 180 degrees and attache the bridle to the stern. Within seconds she settles down and sits perfectly still and we can go below and enjoy a nice evening on the water.
"Tentation" added the following interesting comment:
About anchoring from stern I just remember having read, years ago, the same advice as yours about the benefit of this method.
I "googled" and find it again.
There is a good explanation well suported with some physics in the following link :http://www.oceanbrake.com/anchorbystern.html

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Re: Anchoring

Postby Antti_DD » Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:57 am

Hi Dan, I would like to thank you once more for this valuable idea of stern anchoring, which I will definitely try out next season.

I must say, that I hadn't heard about the concept of using the bridle in normal anchoring before reading your post on the subject. I did some googling and found a bit different ways to set up the bridle. Apparently, one way to do this is to attach the bridle to the anchor line and then secure it to the cockpit winch or stern cleat, while keeping also the primary anchor line tightly attached to the bow cleat. This would create a kind of triangle between the anchor line, bow and the stern. I could not find a drawing or photo of this, other than in relation to using the sea anchor:

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Bridle and the sea anchor
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This concept is also mentioned in the book 'Heavy Weather Sailing', as 'the Pardey method' of rigging a parachute sea anchor. It would be interesting to know if you have tried setting the bridle this way to make this kind of triangle shape? Do you think that this could work to stop the boat from swinging/yawing? I guess that the advantage of this method – if it works – would be that, the bow would be headed more or less into the wind same way like being hove-to, so the sprayhood would provide more shelter to the cockpit and the companionway. What do you think?
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Re: Anchoring

Postby Dan » Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:14 am

Hi Antti,
Yes I have tried it and as long as the bow is kept far enough from the eye of the wind it works but the rocking motion and the added windage, in my humble opinion, renders this method inferior to the stern to.

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Re: Anchoring

Postby Antti_DD » Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:46 pm

Ok, nice to hear about your experiences. I guess that this triangle method might be useful in anchorages, that have shelter from the waves but which are still windy. I will test these different methods next season, if the conditions are 'favorable'.
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Re: Anchoring

Postby tomblix » Mon May 12, 2014 7:02 pm

Hi all

Interesting this anchoring with the stern into the wind way. For us it would (I guess) actually be simpler, since we have the main anchor and winch at the rear. I guess this is the Norwegian way - we go into shore bow first, contrary to many other countries who practice stern first.
One question I`d like to ask is what happens if there are waves of some size? The boat will handle waves better if you meet them bow first.
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Re: Anchoring

Postby Antti_DD » Wed May 14, 2014 2:53 pm

Tom, I don't have experience on stern anchoring other than in sheltered anchorages. But I guess, that the boat will take the waves less smoothly and make a bit more slamming noise compared to the bow anchoring.

I think that stern anchoring is more common way to anchor all over the Scandinavia and hence it is sometimes referred as the Scandinavian mooring, which also includes mooring bow to a pontoon and stern attached to buoy.
Personally, when on a natural harbour, I like to anchor from the bow, since our bow anchor is easily deployable, whereas the stern anchor needs to be taken from the locker. Furthermore, when raised it also tends to bring mud into the cockpit. I see from your photos that in Lina, you have a nice anchor launch system/winch fitted in the transom.
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