Renewing the blue stripe

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Renewing the blue stripe

Postby NilsM » Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:03 pm

Hi to everyone,
as our blue stripe has faded considerably (which is no surprise, as it is still original from `85) I am considering to renew it this year. I did my research in this forum and found that some users have repainted their stripes using the De Ijssel paint (with valuable information regarding the correct color code). As I have never undertaken a similar project before, I would like to ask for your experiences.
Did you sand the stripes completely down to the gelcoat or was a light sanding sufficient? Did you use primer, and does the paint really merge as perfectly as the internet suggest? Anything else I should consider?
Alternatively, I consider using colored vinyl foil. Does anyone have experience doing this and can tell me whether this is a DIY job?
Literally any advise is appreciated as I am a little anxious to screw up this famous HR-trademark.
Cheers,
Nils

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Re: Renewing the blue stripe

Postby Mallemuk » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:06 pm

Hi Nils

Painting the blue stripe is not too difficult and the result is worth the effort. I am very pleased with the result and it lasts well after four years.
I sanded down the blue stripe near the water line and removed all paint because it had been previously painted in a one component paint.The paint was peeling off and looked bad. I used sandpaper grade 180-240 and then wet paper in a higher grade.

It is a good idea to make sure that you do not put a two component paint system on to a one component paint. You can check with some thinner on a rag - if the old paint dissolves easily it is likely to be a one component paint. However a strong thinner will probably have an effect on a two component paint also - only less I guess.

The top blue stripe was sanded/ abraded lightly and everything was cleaned in a thinner. I used a good quality tape to mark up the stripes. I used the two component polyester paint from De Ijssel and there was plenty of paint in one pack for two layers of paint. I still have some left for minor scratches and repairs. Remember to let the first layer of paint cure before applying the second layer.
Unfortunately I was too impatient and ended up with air bubbles in the second layer of paint. I then had to start all over again with sandpaper and thinner....I used a good quality, short mohair roller and made sure that the temperature in the work shop was above 12 degrees.

The result was very good and the paint is strong and of a high quality.

Best of luck!

John

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Re: Renewing the blue stripe

Postby NilsM » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:24 am

Thanks, John for the comprehensive reply.
That sound quite encouraging!
Cheers,
Nils

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Re: Renewing the blue stripe

Postby Peti » Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:19 pm

Hi Nils,
I did it this Winter. It thuogt it was a hard job, but I am excited about the result.
I sanded the stripe first with 240 and then with 400 Paper and used the two comp. paint from Epifanes in the RAL Type no 5003 Falles sapphier blue and painted the blue stripe and the waterline threetimes so that I need 3 Fans a 750ml. I used a solid an very fine foam Roller and I mixed 12% thinner in the vanish. It works fantastic. Good luck.
Do you need the original golden HR29 label. I think I can sell you one , when you give me your adress. Make me an offer....
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Re: Renewing the blue stripe

Postby BrunoHan » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:11 pm

Do you still have that extra original golden HR29 label by the way, Peti?

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Re: Renewing the blue stripe

Postby Peti » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:31 pm

Yes I do,
You have a PN

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Re: Renewing the blue stripe

Postby NilsM » Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:42 am

Motivated by the helpful replies, we have also repainted the blue stripes this past week.
Like John and Peti in their previous replies, we are also very satisfied with the result. The color is very glossy and makes the hull look like new.

We used De Ijssel Double Coat, also in the color sapphire blue (RAL: 5003). This is the color Hallberg Rassy is currently using for the blue stripes integrated in the gelcoat (https://shop.hallberg-rassy.com/content ... ation.html). Interestingly, on the modern boats the big blue stripe and the smaller one near the waterline are actually two slightly different colors (the lower one being DeIjssel paint code 35136).

The work itself was done similarly as in the previous replies. The lower blue stripes have previously also been touched up with 1 component paint which was removed completely. Otherwise, the blue stripes were machine-sanded with 240 grid before the first and second application of paint (painting between the first and second layer was in this case necessary as the second layer was applied after the recommended overpainting interval). Before applying the third layer, we machine-sanded with 320 grid paper and handed-sanded the details which were not accessible by the machine with 400 grid paper (sanding before the final application was recommended by the German distributor of the DeIjssel paint to achieve a better finish). The paint was applied with a fine foam roller (from De Ijssel), 5-7 % thinner was used.
The first layer was painted in low temperatures (painted at 12 °C at 3 pm, temperature went down to 3-4 °C during the night), which is no problem as long as the humidity is low. However, if the surface becomes damp, you will get dull spots in the color.
Thanks again for your helpful feedback!
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Re: Renewing the blue stripe

Postby Peti » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:29 pm

Hi Nils,
congratulation, it looks very good!!
Do you need the HR29 label?

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Re: Renewing the blue stripe

Postby NilsM » Wed May 08, 2019 1:13 pm

Hey Rüdiger,

thank you! As the Hallberg Rassy logo on the hatch garage was also completely faded, I decided to buy the whole package from HR-parts. Thanks though for the offer!
Cheers,
Nils

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