HR29 Rigging?

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Re: HR29 Rigging?

Postby Chris » Sun May 24, 2015 3:29 pm

Hi Tom,

An interesting comment from your surveyor, as my local rigger also said an 8:1 block would be worth consideration. I think I may well look into this in more detail.

The baby stay I mentioned (as the illustration earlier) was more of a stay to support the front of the mast than an inner forestay. Your suggestion could well be more useful if it offered forward support to the mast and also somewhere you could hank a smaller foresail or storm jib.

Somewhere on the forum there's a post about a cutter rig on the 29.

I certainly think I have improved my rigging but now after a couple of trips where I met some fairly boisterous conditions and found it difficult to set a reefed main on my own so I am now looking at a twin line reefing system to allow me to reef the main entirely from the cockpit. This has also been a topic on the forum.

Never a dull moment hey!

All the best.

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Re: HR29 Rigging?

Postby Antti_DD » Mon May 25, 2015 9:38 pm

Hi Chris and Tom,

Here is a photo of HR29 with a baby stay: http://www.christianlindholm.com/christ ... /Play/a778 (I think that the current owner of this boat is also a member of this forum :) ). As can be probably seen from the photo, the inner stay is a short baby stay, and like Chris pointed out, it cannot be used for storm jib etc. As it is attached fairly close to the mast, it should not be too much of a problem when tacking the fore sail.

p.s. DD's mast was stepped on Saturday, so hopefully I can start my rig tuning practices in the coming days.
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Re: HR29 Rigging?

Postby Elad » Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:11 pm

Hey,

I read the threads very carefully....

-I also suffer some "mast pumping".
-A fellow sailor also mentioned he thinks changing the backstay tensioner to a 1:8 would be a good idea.

Did anyone try it?

And a question: Do you have a turnbuckle on the forestay or the only way to tension it is by tensioning the backstay?

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Re: HR29 Rigging?

Postby Antti_DD » Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:02 pm

Hi Elad,

I have the original backstay tensioner, but I don't find it quite adequate for bending the mast as the mast is rather sturdy as mentioned earlier. However, I would be also a bit cautious for adding too much power on the backstay, as this might put a lot of pressure on the mast step. Just my two cents... consulting a professional rigger on this issue might be a good idea.

I don't have a turnbuckle on the forestay so its tightness is only controlled by the backstay and the shrouds.

Chris, how has your rig tuning worked during the season?
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Re: HR29 Rigging?

Postby Chris » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:41 pm

Sorry, I didn't see this Antti.

Whilst I haven't replaced the backstay tensioner, I have wound it on as tight as I could and throughout the season I have noticed a marked decrease in mast pumping. I spent quite a bit of time tensioning the rig this year to balance mast prebend with the shrouds and then pulling on loads of backstay.

I think there needs to be considerable tension in the rig to stop mast pumping and movement of the foot of the mast. I borrowed a friends rig tension gauge but it gave me inconsistent readings and so I went by my own judgement in the end.

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Re: HR29 Rigging?

Postby Antti_DD » Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:57 pm

Hi,

There has been an earlier topic about the creaking noise from the mast step, probably resulting from the mast chafing with the mast step: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=245

I mentioned about this problem to a professional rigger in our boat yard, and he said, that the shrouds were probably too loose and this was causing the chafing sound. I asked him to check the tightness and help me to tune the rig and yesterday we went through the rig tuning. I must say that I have never dared to tighten the shrouds as tightly as he did. Especially the upper shouds are now really tight, but now the rig seems to perform as the fractional rig should be. Previously we have had problems with mast bending forward, but now there is a pre-bend. And the rigger demonstrated, that one can even bend the mast to a banana, but that requires quite a lot of power applied to the backstay, given the fairly ineffective tensioner.

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